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What's going on everybody, I'm Tom Bogart here with Tony Mjola, Benny Faelhober, the latest episode. Yes, we've got a pinch hitter in the host chair. Everybody had a very busy world cup, a very busy summer. We got a few people taking some days off, but Tony Mjola, there's never any days off for the big dog. How are we doing? Oh, they're coming, my friend. They're coming. This actually yesterday, after I left the Northeast, started my vacation, but I did say during my vacation, the only thing I'm going to do for the next month is work on. Call it what you want. So, um, call it what you want. It's been built in time to my vacation. I'm not sure that Jimmy or Chuck could say that in any of their vacations that they've taken throughout the year. No, but it's good. A lot of stuff to talk about for sure. No, no, very, very clearly not happy to be here, happy to fill in, happy to be here with my guy, Benny Phelhover. Benny, how are we doing? Yeah, I'm right there with you, Tony. I'm on vacation as well. I'm actually at my parents house in California visiting grandparents with the kids, so make it happen. We do it. We do what we can to get on the show. So, I'm excited to be here. All right. We just got three guys here, ready to work, the people behind the scenes, ready to work. We can't say that about Jimmy and Charlie, and it's a little bit disappointing. Never meet your heroes. But today's show, it's a packed one. We've got Moodycio Pochettino on Monday, officially continuing the U.S. men's nationality manager for a four-year deal through the 2030 cycle. We're going to talk about the latest news around them, unless we've got a new commissioner. We've got a commissioner to do this. We've got transfer news. We've got all of that. As well as you met, the U.S. M&T transfer roundup. So we want to thank you for being here to join us on call, which you want, whether you're with us live on YouTube, watching on the Glauze Network, or listening to the podcast. But guys, let's get into the big news of the day. It wasn't a surprise after some of the reports came out. But it's official now. Moodycio Pochettino is continuing on as U.S. nationality manager. The deal is through the 2030 World Cup. We'll talk about how long we think that'll actually end up being. But Tony, what is your initial thoughts on this deal going official in Pochettino continuing as U.S. M&T manager? Yeah. Well, first off, congratulations to him, signing this deal. I don't think there's ever, there has ever been a question of, is Moodycio Pochettino good coach or is he a bad coach, right? I think we all think he's a good coach, right, and understands how to do things. There were moments during his 18 month, we'll call it first stint, right, where he had some bumps in the road. There's no doubt about it. And there's going to be bumps in the road over the next four years. During the World Cup, this team captured the hearts of so many, so many fans, right, up to where we had over 50 million watching against Belgium. So there was, there's certainly some positives, Paraguay, the level of play, even if you really for four matches, the level of play, which didn't lead us to believe what we were going to see, which was basically the biggest capitulation that we could have seen against Belgium in that match, in a way that I don't think people can forget the way that game turned out. So long story short, ups and downs, I think in the end, more ups and downs and we saw a direction of where he wants to go. I'm interested once we get into his comments, how we decipher all of those, but in general happy, but my fear is what I've said all along is that if he doesn't stay here for four years, what does that look like? Okay, he's got a four year contract, but even he and his comments basically gave himself an out, if you will, right? But in general, I'm happy. You know me, you guys know me. If that's the guy that they pick, I'm behind the guy, 100%. I'm a little bit surprised. I didn't think it was going to happen, Benny. I thought regardless of the result, he would be out of here, but now he's the manager and let you know, again, if I was one of those players, okay, now let's roll. I know what to expect. Let's roll from here. Yeah. Tony, I think you kind of touched on it. My perspective is similar, although I'm a little bit more worrisome. I think we all have our ways of looking at it, right? There's the optimist, the pessimist, the realist, and I thought I think somewhere in between where do I think pochotino is the right guy for the job in terms of the quality of the head coach? I don't think there's much doubt in that. I think he's shown that he can go through those early bumps and struggles and figure out the roster. I think he's got the best out of a lot of players. I think he didn't allow a lot of players to rest on their laurels as well. There was a lot of positives. Look, the best that we saw the national team was at the biggest level up until that game that you talked about that we definitely capitulated, right, against Belgium. But at the biggest level, we saw some of the best performances of the national team against Paraguay against Bosnian in the knockout round, obviously even the Turkey game that we ended up losing, but with a rotated squad, I thought it was a pretty good performance. There was a lot of positives in the World Cup that captivated an audience. That would be wonderful to maintain that integrity, that continuity. However, the part that really worries me is one, the biggest thing, which is is he going to be the coach in the World Cup. And that is a big question mark that I think a lot of people have. So our hope, right, it's a hope that kills, but our hope is that he's going to remain for the four years in its entirety as the coach. If that happens, I think it is the right decision to bring him back. If it doesn't, then I think it's categorically the wrong decision to have brought him back. Very interesting. Oh god, but he... All right, Tom. The only last part that I would say is, and I think these will be some of the struggles which we've seen, and I know we'll talk about this a little bit, is that second cycle aspect, right, where the messaging isn't brand new, right, we've heard it before, the players have heard it before. How do they react? It's not the shiny new toy where everybody's like, wow, Mauricio Pochotino, this international Argentinian coach is going to be our coach now, and the players are wowed by him. Maybe that's not the same case anymore. There's new players coming into the fold as well. And so, how does that change the relationship of all the players in the coaches? So, that's a different difficulty that he'll have to come across, which will be interesting to see how he deals with it. But to me, the biggest question mark is, is he the coach in 2030? If the answer is yes, I think it's a very, very good rehire. If the answer is no, I think that is a poor one. Yeah, plenty to get into with this new contract, Pochotino, but first, let's hear from the man himself. Let's go on. Scoops. Hold on real quick. What do you feel about this? Well, before we get to this clip, what's your thoughts on this? So, a number of different ways, and I don't want to sound like I'm fencing because, yes, I think he's a very good coach. I thought that he did find, well, very well at times, but find overall the World Cup, given the manner of the exit against Belgium. He had some good and bad in his tenure, and there's two ways to look at it. One is a good coach, but I'm still doubtful that he's here in 2030. But the other side of this is, while it's kind of a marriage of convenience, and I don't mean that in a negative, like kind of a marriage convenience for Pochotino himself, it's also kind of a marriage of convenience for you, a soccer in that, okay, if not Pochotino, if we're like, we don't believe that you'll be here in 2030, who are you hiring right now? There is no obvious, there is definitely no obvious better candidate. I don't think that there's a real obvious candidate rather than Pochotino. So I think I'm good with it, even understanding that I wouldn't love it if in a year, in nine months or 15 months, whatever it ends up being, if a primarily job, if a lot of legal job comes open, then he wants, and he leaves. But I think I'm good with this right now, because there isn't another obvious solution, and I don't want to just be up here, making critiques, and then, okay, what's the solution? Well, I don't have one, right? I don't think, I think the context is very important here in that there's no obvious replacement, and Pochotino is a good coach. So I think all the way around, it makes sense to continue, even if we're worried about whether it'll be four years or not, Tony, to your point, he gave an interview with a small group of media, and they, they, who's asked, are you going to be here in four years? Pretty point blank, and I respected his answer was a bit introspective, very honest, and I thought really realistic and fair. So I appreciate it on one end. You know what he didn't say? 100% yes. He kind of said, four years is a long time, we, we've totally intend to be here. We wouldn't sign a contract if we didn't, like, that's not how we work, but four years is a long time. Maybe the people who love me now in one year, they don't love me, and maybe they don't want me to go, right? It was a creative way of saying, you know, hey, if, if Ramadred, Far from Merino, and calls, then maybe he's gone. I will say sources told me that there is a buyout in this contract. I don't have the monetary value, but one person at U.S. Sakurai spoke with kind of described it as, like, a fair valuation, but high in that it won't be a hurdle that deters teams that want to sign him, but it won't leave U.S. Sakurai in a lurch with a very low release clause, if that makes any sense. But let's talk, let's hear from Puchotino himself before continuing this combo. Really love the culture of U.S.A. Of course, the music, the people, we feel really very welcome, we feel the love from the people, you are amazing people, you know, it's an amazing country with different types of culture during the same, you know, in that big country. We are so excited also to share with the people, with the fans, because we really appreciate the way that people treat us there. Seeing the potential of our fans and all the people on this amazing country that this U.S.A. show, show us during the World Cup, I think it's an amazing opportunity, you know, to be involved and to be part of, to create and to evolve and to develop an amazing new cycle of four years. Now the approach is going to be different and must be different, because it's a four years cycle, it's a project that is about to establish and to set a different principle. So there it is, Maria Sipuchotino speaking after resigning with U.S. Sakurai and he'll start a second cycle. Of course, he didn't get a full first cycle he took over for Greg Berhalter about what 18 or 20 months before the 2026 World Cup, but it's been an issue in the past for the U.S. man's national team of coaches going into a second cycle. You look at kind of the last four managers that did so, none of them ended up in a positive way. Bruce Arena was the only one who got to a second World Cup and that was in 2006 and it was a disappointment after the quarterfinal run in 02 eliminated in the group stage. Bob Bradley didn't last very long after strong 2010 World Cup. Jürgen Klinzman had a strong 2014 World Cup and he continued on and he ends up getting fired early in qualifying the U.S. ends up failing to qualify for the 2018 World Cup. Greg Berhalter too. That was a bit of a weird one, not just because he ends up getting a second cycle. There was an interim, two interim coaches between him ending the 22 World Cup and him returning as head coach. Then the Copa America disaster happens and he gets fired and Puchotino comes in. Tony, for me, what goes wrong in the second cycle, why has this been such a falloff for each of these four coaches that they've hit a peak and then drops in the second cycle? First, yeah, for sure, that's an important question. First, with regards to his interview, right? I watched it. It was 10 and a half minutes or something like that and I actually enjoyed it. For the first time, I enjoyed because you're not bringing a new guy in. You're bringing a guy who experienced the culture, right? And I believe everything that he said in there, but the part that struck me, well, first there was the approach is going to be different in that interview, in that clip we played there, which means he's at the start of a new cycle. He's going to have to see new players. It's going to be different. But there was a moment in there where he talked about how empty him and his staff were after the Belgium match and I was like, that's kind of what I wanted to hear because you know me when it comes to foreign guys, I always feel like, and this is MLS, this is national team, I always feel like they got one foot out the door all the time, right? Like I want you to be completely invested in this and I got that out of the interview. Again, we don't know if he's going to be here. He said that himself, but that that part would stink with regards to second cycles. The Bruce Arena one, if you remember after the 2006 World Cup, he said his biggest mistake was he, like his group was like a year and a half too old, like he didn't make enough changes to that group. Greg Berhhalter was a guy that was basically blamed for, you didn't make any changes. These guys are too comfortable, but the truth is his team was really young in 2022. I think they were the second youngest team, right, in that World Cup. I don't remember. Benny would have a better feel on Bradley, well, Clint Smith, I remember just qualifying went poorly, right, but he had a good enough team to qualify, Benny would know better with Bradley. Yeah. Bob was mostly, Bob was mostly, and I've just brought it up as well, where Bob was mostly Cineo Galati wanted to hire Klinsman as a coach, and I don't think there was much of a drop off. I mean, I was an in that Gold Cup squad in 2011, they went to the finals and ultimately got beaten by what I would consider a better Mexican team at that time with Giovanni Dessonthus at his peak, and he scored that, you know, the wonder goal that they came back from behind. I think we were up to nothing and lost four to two, so there wasn't much of a drop off if I'm not mistaken in terms of results, and I just think that the federation kind of wanted to get Klinsman at that time, and they found the moment to do it. And so, you know, Bob became a casualty, unfortunately, for him and for me. So the question. I thought you didn't know much about that cycle, but I know the question is, like, what will be different? Who knows what will be different? How do we know it's going to be different? I think we all will, and we'll go through our to-do list, I'm sure, and we'll have differing opinions on that. I don't know that you can predict what would be different, right? I was just going to say one thing that just pops up into my head, right? And I know players, you know, can let things be in the past, right? But it's interesting to me right now, the very first thing that I think about in terms of relationship-wise that Pochotino's going to have to figure out is, my guess is, guys that didn't make the roster for this World Cup are going to get called in. And I wonder how a Diego Luna feels, right? Coming in back to camp, and now finding his way, can he get back into good grace? No, I mean, I don't even know if it's bad graces. I think that us media sometimes talk about, oh, Diego Luna didn't make it, and now he's pissed off that he didn't get in, whatever. I don't think that's how it truly works. But there are little hurdles for players like him that Pochotino will want to get him back into the lineup or back into the fold. And there's those relationships hurdles or so. And there could be some with players that were there, right? I mean, I don't know exactly like Christian Policic, he didn't have a good World Cup. Is there a disagreement there or a disappointment there from Pochotino and Policic? Does he bring him in right away? Does he make him have to earn it again? So I think the relationship aspect, we're all human, and humans tend to, you know, in the first, whatever, honeymoon phase, it's a lot easier to get along. And then once you get to know each other for four plus years, maybe those differences become an impasse. And so I do think that that's the biggest aspect of a second cycle is maintaining that good relationship with players. They still want to play for you. You still get the best out of them. So and thank you to all who's live on YouTube with us, leave in comments. We'll be peppering them throughout the show. Benny, a few things from me on that, and this kind of dovetails into the message not getting stale. Pochotino's whole foundation that he tried to build was, it's competition. You have to earn your spot every time. So while maybe his man management hasn't been perfect, it's been consistent, I think, in that, hey, it's a pretty old school structure in that the coaching staff decides and that is what it is. He listens to his player. He has good relationships, particularly when they're together. But the whole idea of if you win your spot on Saturday in a game, that's cool. You got to win it again on Monday in training and Tuesday at training. Everything is about a competition. So as long as he keeps the players bought in, which they absolutely were at the World Cup and the ideas that will continue, I think that'll help the message not get stale because the whole point is the competition. Same thing with say Diagonia, it's hand or test and eight and more. So it's the three guys that I think were kind of the last cuts from the World Cup squad. They, he didn't get a personal touch by calling them and I know that could rub some people the wrong way. And it was consistent. And I think if the onus is on a guy like Diego Luna, the onus is on standard test and an a morris to prove to the coaching staff why they should be back rather than the coaching staff. And I'm sorry for not calling you to the World Cup. That's in the past. That's another thing that he said in the interview with US soccer was, this is a new cycle and we're starting fresh. Everybody gets to start fresh. And as long as the players buy into that message, Tony, I think that will help keep everything fresh. And that is so important. It's a continuous, but I think that's what Mauricio Puchettino is best at. More than tactics or anything else, it's the locker room culture. It's the fighting and competitiveness, the day in day out stuff. It's no coincidence that their best performances together was not the World Cup when they had a long run together within the same locker room with the same team building towards the same goal rather than you get them for a week in September and then a week in October and then you know, six days in November and then you don't see them so much, right? And March, was the worst performance of the Puchettino era? I don't think any of that's a coincidence. Yeah, for someone like me, it's actually a frustrating conversation talking about culture on the national team, like I just, and I get times change, right? But I just didn't grow up in a time where that was even a conversation, right? We weren't, this was, this was like when you got the facts that said you were going to the national team, like the culture started when you got the facts when you had the machine, right? And, and that part is a little bit frustrating for me and I, I got it, everybody's different, everyone will have a different level of tolerance for all of that stuff. I completely understand, but I think it has to be a staple. I'm, I'm curious, we keep talking about culture, like what did he really change? Like what, what, what changed in a cult that he said you have to come and play with the national team? Okay, he set a marker down with Christian at the, what was the goal cup, right? He set a marker down basically with Eunice Musa. The other guys who had agreed behind the scenes to miss that tournament too, that actually went to the tournament, maybe got a little lucky and made the right decision at the end of the day, right? But I think any manager would have, would have taken the same route, right? Benny, you would have been the same if you were managing a national team and those guys called and said, no, I only want to play this game, but you would have handled it the same way, right? Did you just hold on here? I got a job to do. My job is to make the national team better, the only way I can really make it better is to have all my players that are available, available to me, pick them and get them in camp. And that was a really important time. Remember, it was Puchotino's only chance he had, I think it was like a 30 day period, right? Something like that where he had the players, guys like Max Arstham, guys like Sebastian Burrhalter, Malik Tillman during that tournament, Matt Fries during that tournament. We can make arguments in how they all played at the World Cup, but that's where those guys made their name and got on the Mauricio Puchotino radar, if you will. So those moments are really important for the manager to establish, but I don't understand this whole conversation of culture. If you don't want to come to the national team, don't come to the national team, but don't be there. But I will say this, though, Tony, within that, I agree with everything that you're saying, I think the number one job and probably the hardest job for a national team manager is to ensure that the culture is consistent and high quality with the best players in the pool. And that's where I think people struggle. You talk about England, right? You talk about England with Tucko bringing in, not bringing in, who was it, Foden and Palmer. Palmer, right? So two guys that I think most people in the world, Trent Alexander, would say that they're out of high quality enough to be on the roster, but he decided not to bring them for what I can assume is more cultural basis, right? Where he's not going to have that locker room, compatibility and what not. And to me, that is one of the big roles of a coach is, how do you get those three guys? I know we're talking about England right now, but how do you get those three guys being, you know, culturally adaptable to the rest of the team and still have that kind of quality on your roster? If that means you need to bring in whatever, the guys that, you know, away that didn't play at all. Maybe he's, you know, culturally right now, he's on the outstarts, right? Not because he got, you know, he was disappointed or Diego Luna is a guy maybe got disappointed with how he got brought out or whatever, or maybe other guys that we're not even talking about right now that are, you know, that I'm not even not coming up in my head right now. But again, I think that's part of that job. Make sure that the best players are bought in and I don't think it's an easy job. So let's look forward to September and reminder, this is going to be a four match window, a combined September, October window, rather than doing two different ones. It's going to be one long one, which gives the chance for Bojotino and the staff to work with a lot of players. And the first camp after a World Cup, you want to see new faces. You want to start to see the transition to the next era. So guys, a couple of obvious ones for me. Navier Gozo, I think, has to be there unless he gets a transfer and everybody decides it's better for him to be at his new club in September. But absent of that, I think Gozo has to be there. And then beyond that, there's, we'll probably talk about Audrey Mimetti, Colin Solven, Julian Hall, whoever. So for you guys, who are you most looking forward to? We'll start with you, Tony. Who are you most looking forward to? For me, 100% I'm most looking forward to Nookai Banks being in camp at some point. I just think defensively we weren't good enough when it mattered the most. And I don't know if he's the ultimate solution. He's the guy out there that we, when we start talking about dual nationals and bidding, he's the guy to go after. Because with you, I think Xavier Gozo comes in. I think Mimetti eventually comes in. I don't know if it's first camp or second camp or if it's six months into the cycle whenever they, those guys are going to get a chance in the next four years to play. But Nookai Banks, he, one needs to get back to playing full time with his club team. And then we got to see if he's ready to play with our national team and wants to play with our national team. But I don't know if you can think of any other center backs that are out there that you can come in. Oh, Pierre is another one. But again, this is a guy who got his first professional goal this weekend. He got his first minutes like we're now we're talking about world. He's just for the right. You know, he'll go ahead of him, but you'll be here for the radar for the future. Yeah, he's going to be in the cycle. No doubt about it. Again, I don't know if it's first camp, second camp. I don't know how Pochettino's going to approach this, Benny. But it's guys like that that I want to see. And then you, you've been doing this recently, like what's the risk of bringing like 15 new guys into camp as opposed to putting four or five guys this camp and seeing them, the guys that you think are at the top of the list and see how they integrate. And then the next camp you bring two or three because he's in no rush to see every young player right now. Right? I don't know. I think there's a greater risk in bringing too many new guys at once because exactly of what you're saying, you risk not learning anything about them, right? It's like that scenario where coaches have a midweek game and instead of putting four or five guys that maybe need to see minutes and you kind of want to see them in that first team element, you put a whole new 11, they all look in disarray, you really don't get to see anything about anybody. And so I agree. I think you try and, you know, get a handful of players. The obvious ones are the obvious ones that I think those are probably the ones that you try and bring in and mesh with the group that you built something within the World Cup site or within the World Cup. In terms of a player, right, I don't have a player, but what I do have is a position. I think we need to get a better handle on our goalkeeping position, Tony. And I don't know if you have players that you, I'm sure you have a better idea of where the pool is headed. Yeah. No, I don't know, but I don't, but I think we need to establish, I mean, man, ever since I've ever known the national team before I played on it during and after, that's been our greatest position worldwide, right? We've had high, high quality goalkeepers. And look, nothing against Turner, Freeze, Brady, but there was not that consistency there. There was not that level of high world class talent there. I think can we find somebody that's going to be that guy there for the next cycle, whether it's Brady, whether it's someone else coming through the ranks, whether it's a dual international that I haven't even heard of before, but that position, I think, is a position that was a little bit lacking compared to the rest of the guys on the team. That's one position, I'm sorry, if we have to go to a dual national, not that it can't happen, but I'm like, I would say, how did we get here? Like how did we get to that point? I, Benny, two years ago, I thought Gaga, Sloanina would be here, a bad move, an injury to his thumb that he didn't recover or his hand, he didn't recover from very well, has to make a, you know, has to make the right move and has to, has to five minutes. The other guy that we keep talking about at Barcelona, he's got to play in the first team somewhere. Now, I know he was part of the, the summer with the national team and people really, really like him, really like it, but I, I just, I can't think of a guy playing in the World Cup is not playing in a first team somewhere, I don't care where you're at. He's at, he's at Lingby in Denmark. Yeah, he just got moved out of Lingby, right? So that's going to be in it. This next two seasons is going to be really, really important for him to, to make that move. So there are guys out there, but they got to play minutes and, and you're right, it would, I did see someone tweeted, or I don't know, I don't know if it's tweet or whatever, what do you, what do you call it, Instagram post? I'm so good with this social media stuff. I think, I think that's how I would call it, IG as well. Yeah, yeah. Twitter as it is, like to call it, right, there was, there's, there's a, there's a Japanese Americans, not Suzuki, I think it was his backup, right, that maybe also has some links that people were posted. Of course, now everybody's putting every player that, you know, even traveled to America on their bus. I blame you on the Suzuki, wasn't he born in Jersey? Yeah, but I think, yeah, I think he only lived here for like a month or two. You should have found him out there in that month. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't hanging around. That's time. Oh, that was there. I think we're getting two in the week here, because we have, we, I named a couple guys that we have hardly talked about. So goes, though, I think is one, but like for me, the one I want to see most is Audrey Mimetti, because I think that this kid is, is one of the most special players that is being produced right now in the American youth system. He's a first choice starter for the Red Bulls and I think his game is going to go really well to Europe when he gets there and it won't be too long for that. I just think that he's so silky and he's a different type of profile than what we have in, in central midfield. And I, I just think the world of Audrey Mimetti, if I'd have been on one of these guys to really, really make it, it's Audrey Mimetti for me. And I, I think he'd be ready for a senior national call up. But, um, Steve Schrundelow will have you 23 camps. Yeah. I'm sure we'll see whether it's Audrey Mimetti, Julian Hall, Cabin Sullivan, Gozo. If they're not with the first team, I think they'll for sure be with the U23s. So there's going to be plenty of time to see. There's to add something with, with Mimetti, which I think is fantastic for him. I compare him to Michael Bradley a lot in a lot of ways. I think that he plays a similar way. I think he has a similar style of wanting to get into the attack and, and late running situations. Obviously, his ability on the ball, um, his ability to cover ground and he gets to be coached by Michael Bradley every day. So I do think that that the, not only the quality, yes, we could see the quality and the talent, but the development, he will have a perfect scenario here in the next year, however long he's there at Rebel to, to continue to improve and become that international caliber, you know, central midfielder. Ben, Ben, he really quickly, you spoke with Audrey on, on Morning Foodie recently. What did you take away from that, that conversation more about his mentality and his mentals rather than, you know, the, the technical quality that we all see? Exactly. I mean, he's, he's 17 years old. He seems like he's 21 already, right? I mean, we, I always talk back to, you know, when I was 17, I couldn't even think about giving an interview at that point on TV. I was, you know, a junior in high school, uh, and, you know, had a lot to learn. So these kids are so far advanced, not only from the soccer, uh, perspective, but just from the mental perspective, the maturity perspective, he seems like a kid that's, that's got a very high IQ on the field, very intelligent off the field, understands the things that he needs to improve on, um, good, good, uh, head on his shoulder. So he's, he's, I think he's well on his way to, like you said, becoming a very important part, whether it's the full team in a couple of years or the 23s in, in not so many years in, in a short amount of time, um, but he's got, he's, he's been very productive in MLS. And I think he's got a very good road in front of him of continued development. I think that's it. I'm all in on that kid. Um, but before we go to a break, we're recent budget, you know, we're talking about whether they'll be here in four years. We put it up as a poll, 50%, 57% believe that Maurice, opposed to, you know, we'll be the USM and see head coach at the 2030 World Cup really quickly. Guys, what say you? I mean, it's pretty much 50, 50, right? Yeah. I think it's right there. Oh, more votes. You're a 50 and, um, you know, that's, I'd rather it be wherever it's 90, 95% people think because the, that's the problem is, is if it doesn't, um, the, the, the, the hiring is not great. If it doesn't, uh, see a full four year cycle and I, and I said this yesterday in our production call, Benny, you weren't there. I still think we need to have Americans on that coaching staff and not just Steve Churongola who should be, he's under 23s. He should be around the national team all the time. Um, it would be sad if we went a four year cycle with Mauricio Puchotino and all the intelligence and his staff and that didn't rub off somehow, Benny on some American managers, some American coaches, um, that will take over the 23s after, or take over the national team after whatever it is, or take over the national team 10 years from now. Like we need to, so one thing Yergen Klinzman was really, really good about. He included American coaches all the time and they learned a lot from him. They learned, even if you learn what you don't want to do as a manager, Benny, you know that equally is important is learning what you want to do. Very true. Yeah. Look, Tom, and just to add to the 57 and the 43 percent, yes, if he's there, great. If he's not, not great. The other question is, does the fact that the players, right, know that that is always going to be a possibility? Does that, you know, discredit him every single day on the training field or not? So, um, another concern, I hope it doesn't and I hope everything works out as perfectly as we all, you know, would hope for, but those are the realities that he's going to have to deal with. I hope is the most dangerous thing you can give a man, but we're going to take a quick break here. There are significant changes coming to Major League Soccer. We're going to break it all down when we're right back from this quick break. All right, everybody. We are back and Larry Berg has been selected as the next Major League Soccer Commissioner. The MLS owners voted in New York City on Monday for Don Garber's successor, Larry Berg, who is a co-owner of LFC. He will need to divest his ownership in that club. He's somebody that has the respect of the owners in that room. He's been the co-chair of the sporting committee, the committee that does help determine what the changes, what the big level changes are going to be in MLS and he's somebody that sources in those rooms, tell me, is pushing for change in the league and not just that, efficiency in decision making, which is something that I think is very much needed at this stage. Listen, the schedule change, it just so painfully obviously should have been happening this summer, but they were too slow to push some of the more conservative owners through on the change. Same with the roster rules, there's a lot to discuss about what's at the top of his to do list, but first of all, Tony, what are your thoughts on a new Major League Soccer Commissioner? Yeah. Prior to this, honestly, prior to this whole sort of sequence here of Don Garber transitioning out, I didn't know much about Larry Berg. I knew his name. I didn't really know what his function was and how he did it, and clearly the rest of the owner's thought that he should be one of the two guys on the list in the end. But he was sort of the business man, right, and Nathan Sim was sort of the television guy, right? Correct. Those are the broad strokes, and that's all I don't catch up, but Larry Berg was viewed as the favorite pretty early when the finalist came up, continue. Right. Yeah. So it sounds like the owners got their guy. I do like the fact that he's been one of the owners that has pushed the envelope, right? Like the Moss brothers have, like they have in Atlanta with Arthur Blank. There's been guys all around the league that are like into 2.0 or the 3.0 MLS that have pushed the envelope with roster rules and with spending and pushing other owners. So I like that part. So yeah, in general, congratulations to him. The owners clearly know what they were looking for, and they got their guy. I think it's going to be really hard from a structural standpoint to do more than Don Garber did in his tenure, right? I think it was 12 teams when he came in, two teams contracted and then 20 teams back into the league, right? So to get us to 30, I think that's how the math was during his tenure. I don't know. We're going to see 20 teams come in in Larry Burbs, yeah, tenure, but that doesn't mean he can't help grow the league. I think number one priority is eyeballs on television. How do we get the eyeballs on television in this new contract where you can walk into bars, I walked into a bar the other day and I saw Louisville playing Tampa in the USL on every game. What a game that was. That was a crazy one. Yeah. Crazy one. It was 3-0 and 4-1 or 4-3-1 and it was 4-0, 3-0, whatever it was, but CBS, our platform was on all over the bar where currently it doesn't work that way in MLS, right? So there were people sat down watching the soccer game. I'm guessing partly because some of them watched the World Cup in the summer, they got them through all the now they're watching a game that maybe they don't even know. Some people were there to support a team, so it was really, really interesting to see. We need to have eyeballs on TVs because the stadiums are beginning to be filled all over the country, right? So we got that part, right? Now we got to get the other part, right? So the biggest things were the commissioner for Larry Burck now and the owners is so the media rights deal ends in the summer of 2029 to plot that. I think, first, Benny, it's the new salary cap, new roster structure and that change as Paul Sonorio and I report on the athletic, the proposal or at least that the advanced discussions are on a more open salary cap in which there's a floor and there's probably a ceiling, maybe it's 15 million floor, maybe it's 30, maybe it's more than that for the ceiling. Still some DP spots because that's how if a team wants to afford messy or sun young men or whoever, then you can have that within the structure if you want to pay more discretionary spend for your owners who want to pay more, but when I talked to general managers and CSOs, I've never gotten as much consensus on a topic as this when you'd ask, what would you want to see the salary cap, the roster will changes be? And everybody said, just give us a floor, give us a ceiling, give us a couple of DPs and take away everything else. Like let us just build rosters the way that we want to. You're going to get teams that spend more, you'll get teams that spend less, but everybody will have an identity. So, Benny, what would you like to see from the new, you know, roster rule proposals or something that even maybe if I even haven't said that you'd love to be included or taken away? Yeah, well, I'm going to get to that in one second. First, I just want to preface it with, I actually got to know Larry Berg, I played at LASC. He was our owner. He was our leading owner where he was the face of the ownership group. He was around the team. I've golfed with him before and so he is a fantastic human being, first and foremost. And I think that's probably one of the reasons why he's been able to get so many owners to, you know, back him, support him and want him to kind of be the face of the league. And I agree with Tony as well, right? Don Garber has been the commissioner since day one. Am I right in saying that or no? Since how many years? So Larry Berg is a third commissioner. Don Garber was the second. Don Garber was first, and sorry to interject again, but like just in case it isn't abundantly clear, maybe soccer doesn't exist with that Don Garber. It was absolutely going to fold in the early 2000s, so. Correct. He's on the Mount Rushmore, right, of MLS with what he's been able to create, what he's been able to uphold and grow, really, right? I mean, like what we talked about, there's so many teams, so many top players. This league is world, visually seen worldwide. And so I think there's, you don't even need to compare the two right now, but now going forward in terms of what we would like to see from Larry. I think it's kind of what both you guys talked about. One, it's visibility being able to see the game on TV, whether it's on the local bar, whether it's on prominent channels, whether it's in Europe, South America. You want to be able to have the game be seen everywhere, just like the premise, right, to all American fans. And so that's number one. And then number two is what you touched about Tom in terms of the roster rules. We want to see a little bit more transparency, I think, regardless with what we evolved into, right, there's going to always be teams that are going to be willing to spend more and teams that are going to be a little bit less, are going to be a little bit more thrifty with their money, right? And we're going to see a little bit more disparity in the league. This is one thing that MLS has been really good about. There's always a new champion, right? I don't know the last time that there's back-to-back champions. There might have been Galaxy in 11 and 12. I could be wrong on that. Maybe, I don't know if, yeah, anyways, I think it's wrong, I didn't get that. So we see different champions all the time, and that might change, potentially, if we start getting into a league that has a little bit more parity where some of the big, you know, like you said, ceiling and floor, but I think that's ultimately what you have to do. If you want to start growing the quality of the players in this league and you've got to bring more talent and more visibility to it, and more people want to watch it, it's not that everybody's spending the exact same and the competition is exactly the same. You've got to have the teams, the Real Madrid, the Barcelona's Liverpool's, the Man United's that are going to spend more than the other teams so that the growth of the fan and the visibility worldwide is going to continue to evolve. So again, long-winded, but I think those two points are obviously right at the forefront of what he needs to do. On the parity and stuff, listen, I think that they're being a new champion every year, essentially, I think that has more to do with the randomness of the playoffs than anything else. Like I think, yeah, there's a lot of parity and magic soccer, particularly because of that. But if you look at the conferences for the most part, it's the same teams in the top six, or similar teams in the top six, and whether it's tied to spending, yes, sometimes it is for some clubs, LAFC are always there. Seattle Sounders, ironically, don't spend very much anymore, but they're generally always there. Philadelphia Union, and from 2019 through this year, and maybe they're on their way back, but they were always there. You go on down the list, Atlanta United has spent just about more money than anybody. They haven't been there at all since, what, 2019, when they're last really good year. So in terms of parity, I think the salary cap isn't going to magically make teams that spend big, spend perfectly. And a team like Philadelphia Union, maybe they're going to need to do more to stay. Maybe Seattle Sounders are going to need to do more to stay in kind of that upper echelon. But I think that teams rise and fall, there are efficiencies, there are smart executives or coaches or special players that teams will stay near the top of the league. And whether you're going back to back and any of the trophies, I think is a little bit besides the point when you get, how many times have we seen LAFC in Seattle in the conference semifinals? Or the Columbus crew under Wolfernanci and even with Caleb Porter for a little bit. So this idea of parity is definitely one that's going to stay with MLS. But see up, Montreal basically stinks every year right now. Toronto FC have not been good for a few years because of kind of mismanagement in the past. So there are teams that won't be there, will be there and more money. Maybe that'll exacerbate that, but I think that's already kind of happening right now. Kind of Tony for you, if you're commissioner for a day, what's the first or most important thing that you would focus on change or look to do for yourself? I don't know if it's day one Tom, but at some point we have to, a commissioner has to have the conversation with the rest of the owners now interesting because David, because Larry Berg was an owner. How they feel on on pro rel and how they might make it work in MLS, right? I don't think there's ever going to be pro rel in all of the divisions, right? But can it be within MLS somehow, which means you probably got to get the 36 or 38 teams or 40 teams? And I get the arguments, but I just think there just needs to be more jeopardy with all of the teams. When there were less teams, there was actually seems like there was more jeopardy every day because we didn't have nine teams and what do we have? Eighteen teams that essentially make the playoffs, right? Right now. So it's only the early days in MLS, wasn't it eight of the ten teams made the playoffs? No, I don't think it was, I think, yeah, but we, there was just more jeopardy in games like you had to. You didn't, so even then if that were to, I think it was six, right? And there was the play in game and all that, you didn't want to be one of the four teams out and there were less games, so they meant more each game, but I mean, we have 18 teams that make the playoffs. Is there another league in the US that has 18 teams that make the playoffs? Like I feel like there's too many outs along the way. If you cut that down, if you cut the, just the number that, then there's a little bit more jeopardy for some teams. I understand why they do it. It's television. They had to fill the Apple deal with more of the games, right? That were promised to, to Apple and they had to fill those dates. I get all of it, but we got it with somehow. I don't know if it's, if owners may just be completely opposed to ProRail, then find a way to make the jeopardy, whether it's prize money, whether it's another target, another, I don't know, in the Ross rule, you get some benefit from finishing in different spots or you get something taken away if you don't, but I just don't feel like there's enough jeopardy in some of the games. Banny, what would be the one thing for you? Yeah, one thing for me would be kind of what you touched on, Tom, with more transparency and clarity with the salary cap. Just make it simpler. Obviously, we have the target allocation money, the general allocation money, the tame in the game, and all its friends. I think it'd be great if we, like you said, floor ceiling of salary cap, you add a couple of DPs that allow teams to go out and spend big on the messes, but everybody's kind of have that same playing field in it, and it's a little bit more transparent, not only for the CSOs and the sporting directors, but just the fans as well, and they can follow a little bit better what their cap space is, what their team looks like, where they can add players, and so I think that'd be a big plus in continuing the development of the league. For me as well, sorry, cap, get that done, get that done by 27 when the counter flips, and a small one, if I may add a second, because we shouldn't even have to argue about it. All 30 unless gloves in the open cup is very simple. That should be there. Listen, that's it for this endless segment coming up. We're going to talk about Americans on the move in Europe. There should be some more heading overseas. We'll discuss all this after the break. All right, we're back. Let's talk about Americans abroad. It's August. It's silly season. It's the transfer window. The first one that I want to talk to about today is Geo Reina. That move from Bruce and Winston Gladbach to Straussburg is official, a fee of around $5 million. After just one season at Straussburg, guys, Benny, I'll start with you on this one. What do you make of this move for Geo? Is this the right one? Well, I don't know if it's the right one. We're going to find out in probably six months to 12 months' time, I think it makes sense in the sense that he's leaving Gladbach where he didn't have the kind of year that I think he was expecting or hoping for. Now he's going to Straussburg. The league on France is a lower level, in my opinion, than Bundesliga. He has the ability to become a starter on that team, maybe showcase himself more in that league. But I think that he's been in Europe for six, seven years now. He went there early in his teenage years. He showed a lot of promise, obviously, with Bruce Adortman, and he has yet to really fulfill as a grown adult now in first-team football. If it doesn't work out in Straussburg, I'm wondering if it's MLS after that. I think Geo's got an incredibly talented player, but talent doesn't take you everywhere. It doesn't. There's more to it than that. There's the mentality. There's the team aspect of the game. There's what kind of pro are you on and off the field? Look, I don't know Geo. He might check off all the boxes in that regard, but he's yet to push himself to that next. Hey, I am one of the first 11 guys on the roster sheet weekend in Weakend. I think that's what his goal needs to be. There were some players, in my time, that were so good at doing that. You saw it. We talked about Michael Bradley before. He was so good at doing that in Europe where he went to Galbache. I was like, man, that's going to be tough for him coming from Harambeant. He found a way to become a starter there. Then he went to Roma. That's going to be tough. Then he would lose his spot because another coach would come in and then he'd win it back. You have to find a way in Europe. It's not easy. It is not easy for Americans. I know that it's a little bit different now than it was what I used to play. That's what Geo needs to do. He needs to push through that difficulty and find a way to become an integral part of a team. If he doesn't, I think this might be one of the last stops that he has in Europe before he has to come back to MLS, which isn't a negative thing. I did that to a certain degree as well and found success in MLS. But again, we'd love to see Geo do what he can in Europe at a very high level, especially for what we think he can produce on the national team. So Tony Geo has played more than 1,000 minutes in a league season, only one single time in his playing career, which is obviously disappointing between injuries and not being selected. This Crossberg team, they spent a lot of money. They're backed by Blueco, but they make a lot of sales outbound as well. We'll see where the dust settle is on September 3rd, based on who either stays, who's getting sold or who else that they bring in. My one worry is that they will spend more money on attacking pieces. What do you think of Geo's chances at that break of the playing time? So I'm assuming your worry is that because they're going to bring more attacking pieces, which means more competition, you're at Straussburg. I'm not discrediting Straussburg, but if you can't play at Straussburg, and I get there a young team that's got talented players and if so, but okay, then where do you want to play? What's the ideal scenario? At some point, you got to play. Benny, you're saying it's tough for American player over there. I get it. You're talking about American player. It's been on two World Cup rosters, right? It's not like an American player that just played two years in MLS and is having a Max Arsson who's now making his first move or potentially making his first move to Europe, and now you got to prove yourself. European scouts know exactly who Geo Rain is. He's not a secret to anybody over there. We have here, the honest needs to be on, and I will credit Jimmy Conrad for being the, how do you say the most vocal about this, right, is that he needs to play, man. The honest is on him now, to go and play, it doesn't matter what team he goes to now. You have to imagine, after the team she's been at, okay, you mentioned a thousand minutes at Dortmund, there were a bunch of injury-laden seasons, right, that we thought he was making the breakthrough. Then you go to Nottingham Forest, which is the poor move. All of the moves have had to been digested and studied, and we can write papers on them right now to figure out what the next move is for Geo. I mean, he's got to play, period, that doesn't matter where he is. Yeah, he's got to find a way. He has got to find a way, and that's exactly what it is, and sometimes I wonder, there's certain players that they fit into such a particular set of circumstances, whether it's the way the team plays, the way the coach sees the players from an individual standpoint, maybe even relationship-wise, and I think that Geo seems to be that guy that, when things are perfectly set up for him, you see all his true potential. But if something isn't right, if the coach doesn't see him exactly in his position or in the right way, or if the team doesn't fit the way he plays, then his level drops considerably. He's got to find a way past that, or else his time in Europe is probably going to come to an end. What do you guys think if we set a couple over-unders, over-unders 750 minutes played in Legon, over-undered nine-and-a-half goal contributions, what do you guys think? I'm going on my prayer over. I'm going on my prayer is over. What do you actually believe, though? Over. That's over. 750 minutes, I'm trying to think in what's a 38-gives season over there? I think 536, they dropped 18 teams, so it'll be 36. I would say the minutes, why 750 minutes seems like an over, unless he gets injured, seems pretty attainable. Nine-and-a-half goals. I'd have to go with this goal. Goal versus. Goal versus. I'd go under on nine-and-a-half goal contributions. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but if I had to put my life on it or betting, I think I'd go under because I don't think how many years as he had that he's been over nine-and-a-half goal contributions. Same things with the minute, man, I hope I'm wrong. Believe it when I see it at this point, so I'm under on both Straussburg as a better team than Gladbach. I thought he was going to play more in Gladbach. It's just a hypothetical player right now, and it sucks because he's so talented. I hope this is nothing personal. I hope for him that he's able to play and play well at Straussburg, but Straussburg performed better than Gladbach last year. This is a team that has the backing of Blueco, the Chelsea owners. There's going to be a ton of players. Then in January, if he hasn't gotten his position, they'll go buy somebody else or they'll loan somebody from Chelsea. Oh, January, you've got to have your position now, January. I have your January. My point is. My point is this. If a general deal is not working, it's over. Yeah. It's a failed deal at that point. You got to have your position. You just, yeah, I don't know how much they spend on other players, but I'm guessing it their club. How many five million dollar players are there at their club? More. Outside of loaned from I think you're underestimating their bottom power. Yeah. Yeah. What were they in conference league last year, right? Didn't they lose to because I did the final. Didn't they lose to Ryall? I think in the conference league in the semi finals last year. One of the two, or was it Crystal Palace? I think they lost the one of the finalists in conference league and actually were maybe the favorite in that or should have won, if I recall correctly. I mean, that was a couple months ago, but yeah, they made it at least that far, but then it's a failed move. If your expectation happens, then it's not going to be a great move. That's the worry. That's the whole runner. Let's talk about some other young Americans who haven't gotten a move at least yet. Again, it's August 4th, the time of recording is plenty of time left in the transfer window, but three from MLS. There's Diego Luna, Xavier Gozo, Peyton Miller. I'm going to tell you guys what I've heard on all three. First of all, Peyton Miller. He signed a new contract. Sources tell me that there were offers. There was opportunities and Peyton Miller decided he wanted to stay at New England for now. So hopefully in the future he'll go, but that was a Peyton Miller decision as far as I understand. Diego Luna Monterey made a low bid for him and they kind of quickly moved on. There's been some clubs in Europe that are interested, but nothing that is too advanced. Xavier Gozo, I think we'll have more on this soon, but I'm by September 3rd. I'm expecting him to be in Europe, but not at Real Salt Lake. Really? Yeah. Yeah. He's made it clear he wants to leave. The clubs that I've heard that are in for him, the ones that I've reported in January was Ashton Villa and Atlético Madrid. There are other teams and other teams with the spending power. When those teams come and the player himself says I want to go, in 2026 those deals just happen. Interesting. Yeah. Look, I mean, I think all the players that you mentioned, obviously have a lot of quality and have had a lot of success already at a short period of time in MLS, Gozo is interesting to me because he's just, he's kind of come out of nowhere over the last, I don't know, 12 months or so and he's been fantastic, right? In that role that they use him in Salt Lake as a wing, attacking wingback, he's so good to go in forward one on one situation is getting in on the back end of crosses from the opposite side. It almost feels like a perfect situation form right there right now. As a young player, you want to be getting minutes and if you were to tell me, hey, there's you know, the team in the air to VZ, like I asked, a PSV, something like that, I think that could be fantastic form. That's fine. That's fine. And I understand it. But I think those are the teams that he's going to go in there and probably have a really good shot of starting right away and getting real minutes at a high level, playing champions league. Man, go into it. Let's go Madrid. You're not guaranteed to play, right? You might be sitting on the bench. You see guys that American guys that are there, Obed Vargas, I, Tom, you would know better than me. But I've heard rumors that you might be on the way out because he's not getting those minutes there. And so it becomes a very precarious situation going to Europe to a top team where you're not really not only not guaranteed minutes, but it's almost more likely that you're not going to get them at that age. And then what are you doing? You're training there for 12 months, you get kind of forgotten about in the national team a little bit. You're not getting the consistency of minutes that you want to get at a young, at an early age. Maybe you get loaned out somewhere or you have to make another move, excuse me. And so financially for the player, it's great. You're going to get paid. You're going to get money. And wherever you go from there, from Atlético, Madrid, you're still going to get paid, right? So financially it's great. But in terms of career wise and football progression, it could become concerning. Now I think all those guys have the quality to do it. But we'll see where they land and what they can do when they get there. Priced out as well, not personal terms like the club. And I don't think in any of these like real soul, they kept to these players. I don't think that they're doing anything wrong. If you get a higher bid for a player, like that's their job. And it is still moving the player on New York. But I want to be clear, it's not as if Gozo is putting his hand out saying, hey, I want a bigger contract. It's understood you. I understood you. Yeah. Elsewhere here, some bigger names, more established names, Flow Balgan. I still expect him to deport Monaco this summer. But maybe things are going a little bit slower from the outside than I thought. There's still interested England PSG has been linked with him. I don't know about that one. And then there's Tyler Adams. He's been linked with Newcastle as a potential replacement for Bruno Gumerai, Tony, any outlook or hopes for either of these. Tyler would go there when everyone's going out the door at Newcastle, right? Gumerai is a different type of player, right? Then Tyler is, but obviously Newcastle, one of the top three richest clubs in the world. So we'll see what their rebuild looks like. Flow Balgan, I said, we did that thing on Morning Foodie. I think I said out of the teams I had, Juventus made the most sense, right? Of the teams we had, he would be a great fit and set, and be at a massive, massive club. But then you got to potentially pass up playing in Europe or in champions, I guess you'd say, not in Europe, because they are playing in Europe. So we'll see how that turns out. Who is the other one? The third one. Just the two, Balgan and Adams. Oh, those two. Yeah. I mean, Tyler is the interesting one, right? Because he's in such a, he's in such a place where they love him. He's going to play weekend and week out. He's developed there, and now a new manager. That's a different story, right? How he feels about that and how he felt about his old manager. But that's an interesting one to see how that turns out. I do think Benny with Balgan, just goal scorers, right? Are, you know, people are looking at goal scorers. And I know you may just sign Colomani. I saw that clip of McKenney and him in the locker room, right? But Colomani didn't light it up when he was at UV. Scored in the first game, I think, when he was on loan at UV. And then it wasn't like he lit up the place. So that's, you know, I still think there's a need for him there. But and he played on the right side of Juventus, by the way. He didn't play centrally for the club. So there's a conversation that they could fit both those guys in the field. But I just think with goal scorers, Benny, those guys are always going to be the most attractive, you know, sort of first names in the head, if you will. Right. They're hot commodities. But also within that, I think the goal scorers sometimes find a niche in Monaco or in a place that they're at, and then have a hard time translating to doing the same thing potentially somewhere else, right? So I think Balgan needs to be more cautious with wherever he decides to go because he's found a place where he's been really successful. And it's translated obviously to the international stage as well. We're actually, I think Tyler Adams is a guy that you can pretty much put on any team in the world and he will find a way to help that team in some way. Just because he runs all over the place, he's selfless. He does the defensive things that I think are invaluable to teams. And so for me, Tyler Adams can go any team in the world and he'll find success there where Balgan, I think, needs to be, okay, maybe it is Juventus, but maybe it's better to stay at Monaco. Maybe there's another team that makes more sense. I think he needs to be careful and cautious, right? To find a place that fits his style. Elsewhere around the national team, we talked about that combined September, October window. Well, some breaking news. We have confirmed the opponents for the U.S. national team in that window. It is going to be Peru, Chile, Mexico, and Canada, all four games within the United States. I think this is a really exciting window. Those are two good South American teams. Obviously it's not all just the end of Brazil, but two good South American teams. And then those are the top five. Tom, Tom, Tom, two good South American teams. I'm pretty sure those are the two bottom teams in South America, maybe not. So I don't disagree. Every team in South America is of high quality, but I'm pretty sure Peru and Chile, and this, at least in this last cycle, we're two of the bottom three. That's fair. That's fair to push me on the neither we're at the workup. And then we have Tony Jesse Marsh who's returned to playing at the United States. That's always fun. Yeah, in general, I would have loved to have seen European teams. I know it's hard, right, with the schedules in Europe. It's an okay schedule. I'm with Benion, the other on the two South American teams, not great South American teams, but look, it is what it is, right? This is what you got to play. So four chances now. Now, it could be vitally important if Pocetino decides, like we were talking about that, hey, we're going to, we're going to use a lot of younger guys in this camp. Like we're going to go really, really, we're going to let the older guys for the most part, you know, find their way back in Europe, get their legs underneath them. Still got Christian nuts injured. Maybe we leave those guys now. If that's the case, this window is really, really good. If we have our full team, for me, it's just an, it's an okay window, but a great opportunity for Pocetino. Yeah, learning experiences will be the first window. Yeah, see beaten Mexico and see, I don't believe so. I don't think so, but what's the, what's the number of, what's the roster number for this camp? That's whatever the hell they want. They can do what I would say. I mean, I don't remember the last time we had a four game camp, right? Four, four game, it's combining the September and October. Which is fantastic, though, right? Because your eight more days and days ain't easy, though. That's true, but so that's why you bring a bigger roster and with Tony was talking about, I would love to see a roster that's a very good mix of some of the veterans that we saw on the World Cup and some of the young faces. So you can kind of mix and mash and see exactly where these younger players or guys that haven't been brought in yet, how they fit in and who really has that quality to kind of push the, you know, the roster depth. I would agree. I'm very excited to see when that roster comes out. We'll have it all for you here. Maybe Charlie Davis and Jimmy Conrad will be back from vacation. Who knows? Maybe they'll have another vacation. Those pampered stars they want to take time off. But before we get out of here, I want to end with this special shout out to Paul Kennedy, the editor-in-chief of Soccer America for something like four decades. He's an absolute legend in the meat American media sphere. Somebody's been covering the game long before I was alive. He's just the absolute best. He's taking a step back from his editor-in-chief for old Soccer America. Don't worry. He will continue writing a bit. He says he's excited about that. But what an unbelievable career and somebody that deserves all the flowers that we can give him. So shout out to Paul Kennedy. He won't listen to this, but shout out to Paul Kennedy. He probably doesn't want this either. But shout out to Paul Kennedy, the editor-in-chief of Soccer America. Thank you, Benny. Thank you, Uncle T. Appreciate you all. In the YouTube, everybody who's listening, appreciate you. We'll be back very soon. Thank you, Uncle T. Thank you, Uncle T. Thank you, Uncle T. Thank you, Uncle T. Thank you, Uncle T. Thank you, Uncle T. Thank you, Uncle T. Thank you, Uncle T. Thank you, Uncle T. Thank you, Uncle T. From Executive Producer Kim Kardashian and the producers of Love Island USA baseball and Scottsdale go hand in hand. Comes a new series about the parents behind elite youth baseball. 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